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05-08-2019, 02:23 PM | #1 |
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G2 - Blue smoke - Out of ideas
Have a 1987 G2 that I bought used and have no historical information on maintenance.
It is blowing blue smoke out of the muffler, assuming it is burning oil. What I have done so far: Replaced air filter Cleaned air box Changed oil. Put in exactly 1 quart Adjusted valves Cleaned carburetor Engine compression is at 152 lbs Added oil to cylinder to test if I had bad rings. Compression doesn't change Does anybody have any other suggestions of things to check?? Thanks |
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05-08-2019, 02:30 PM | #2 |
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Re: G2 - Blue smoke - Out of ideas
The oil control rings fail, while the compression rings are still pretty good. Your scenario is the common mode of ring failure on those models. I have one that's just the same, but it's just a yard beater, so I'm not rebuilding it. Just know, if you are driving it, and it stops smoking, that's because it's out of oil.
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05-08-2019, 02:35 PM | #3 | |
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Re: G2 - Blue smoke - Out of ideas
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AS long as you keep oil in it, it will probably run forever. The oil control rings have nothing to do with compression, but when they break or stick you'll get the smoke show. Don't run it out of oil and it will last a good while to come still. If you rebuild, pull it apart first to make sure it doesn't already have an oversized piston in it. It should be marked on the top of the piston. If your compression is good, and there's no scarring in the cylinder, you may be able to get away with just deglazing the cylinder and a new set of OEM rings. Stay away from the aftermarket stuff unless you want to rebuild it again in a year. |
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05-09-2019, 11:21 AM | #4 |
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Re: G2 - Blue smoke - Out of ideas
Thank you again for all your help.
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05-13-2019, 07:18 PM | #5 |
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Re: G2 - Blue smoke - Out of ideas
Try some Rislone ring seal or Restore
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05-13-2019, 07:50 PM | #6 |
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Re: G2 - Blue smoke - Out of ideas
Why ruin a good engine ? Not all that hard to pull the engine and do a minimal rebuild ? A hone, some rings, and some rod bearings should give quite a few more years.
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05-13-2019, 08:33 PM | #7 |
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05-14-2019, 06:38 AM | #8 |
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Re: G2 - Blue smoke - Out of ideas
The rings,rod bearings,side cover and head gaskets come to $73. Add a torque wrench and clutch puller and maybe you are just over $100.
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05-14-2019, 04:06 PM | #9 |
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Re: G2 - Blue smoke - Out of ideas
Rebuilding an engine takes some knowledge. Most people aren't experienced enough to tackle that job. I agree that would fix it, and that's what I would do. Maybe the OP isn't comfortable with doing a rebuild, and understandably so. It's not something you just do without guidance, knowledge, and good mechanical ability. If the OP is pretty mechanically savvy, I'm sure he will be buying the rings and bearings.
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05-14-2019, 04:38 PM | #10 |
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Re: G2 - Blue smoke - Out of ideas
With youtube and our help anyone should be able to do one. Once the crank or the block is hurt it is kind of game over. Who knows he might a friend here or there to help him with the project. I just wanted to point out how little cash was involved in a minimal rebuild. Some people hear rebuild and think tons of dollars are required. One of my neighbors in cleveland tool his lawn tractor engine to the local high school with the parts where the reassembled it for a paltry fee.
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