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Old 11-28-2021, 11:18 PM   #11
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Default Re: 1983 Marathon Gas - Clutch Issue

Had a chance to 'play' with the Cart today! I'm having clearance 'issues' removing the clutch. Tried raising the cart, that's not the answer. Hope I don't need to remove the Axle for clearance, are there some tricks involved?

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Old 11-29-2021, 12:11 PM   #12
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Default Re: 1983 Marathon Gas - Clutch Issue

I haven't worked on an 83 yet, but I do have one coming in next. I'd like to tell you it should slip off without removing anything but I can't for sure, have you tried removing the outer cover first? That should give you more clearance.....

I know the 83s are an oddball year with changes in the exhaust and whatever else?? I'll know more when it gets here
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Old 11-29-2021, 07:05 PM   #13
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Default Re: 1983 Marathon Gas - Clutch Issue

Update!
I removed the lower shock bolts and that allowed the axle to drop below the clutch!

Removed Clutch Cover and to my inexperienced view, there is nothing obviously 'bent,broken or misaligned'. Well, darn.... Now what?

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Old 11-30-2021, 11:43 AM   #14
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Default Re: 1983 Marathon Gas - Clutch Issue

If I can't find a broken and or defective 'looking' part, should I lube the wear points and reassemble for another test?

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Old 11-30-2021, 08:05 PM   #15
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Update!

An up close and 'dusty' inspection, followed by a nice air pressure dusting and then a couple of drops of very light oil on the pivots and rollers. Reassembled and am at the point of tightening the Center attaching bolt.

I would really like to Torque it to the proper spec, anyone know what that might be?

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Old 11-30-2021, 08:49 PM   #16
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Default Re: 1983 Marathon Gas - Clutch Issue

Page K-2 of the manual. 55-60 foot pounds with loctite.

I would have used a graphite based lube instead of oil.
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Old 12-01-2021, 09:03 AM   #17
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Sir Cart Around, thank you for that information.

I'm 'big' on proper torque, coming from classic car engine restoration experience.

Would that be a 'dry' Graphite? At least my light spray will allow me to diagnose if I've cured the problem. And that cover is super easy to remove, now that I've found the method so I can clean it again and properly lube, providing that I've 'cured' it's ailment!

I'm still mulling over why the new 'motor mounts' that I installed on the swing arm near the shocks self destructed within about 4 hours of usage! Any thoughts on this malady?

Once again, thank you!
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Old 12-01-2021, 09:17 AM   #18
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Yes. Something like this. https://autoplicity.com/8534848-dri-...8aAn5MEALw_wcB

Or Molylube.
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Old 12-02-2021, 08:44 AM   #19
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Great looking product, I can see multiple uses for that on my classic cars and trucks as well. Got it coming.

The Bad: I cleaned the clutch, inspected each weight, roller and pivot and compared one with the other. No 'obvious' signs of uneven wear, or damage. The assembly slides on the shaft freely without binding. Lubed the pivots, reassembled and there is no change whatsoever from before I started. Suggestions?

T's, Bruce!
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Old 12-02-2021, 09:28 AM   #20
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Default Re: 1983 Marathon Gas - Clutch Issue

You say it's revving up, so I'm going to assume that the engine really is running. You would be surprised how many aren't. If everything is free, that clutch should be moving in and out. I'm not sure why it isn't. I don't have any experience digging into mine. My problem was all driven clutch.

I found a couple of videos that weren't much help. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlTSYqGbgHk and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgu0LuQBOf8

Is there any chance that you could post a you tube video so we can see what is happening?
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