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Old 05-03-2017, 11:36 PM   #1
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Default Electrical: Run away cart, what just happened and why

Been fighting for a couple of weeks now to get a g29 to do anything (someone even worse than me worked on it before I did).

Put power straight to motor and verified motor good. Key switch is good, tun tow good. I Put in a new controller. Still no click on Solenoid. Verified solenoid was good. Traced out all of the circuits and found power to/on the red (control) wire of the solenoid primary when I checked it back to negative, but no power on the other (black) control wire that goes to the plug on the wiring harness.

So, being tired and frustrated (not a good combo). I jumpered the terminal with the black control wire over to negative battery. When I did, cart took off wide open in reverse. Nearly ran over me. The odd thing was, as soon as the cart moved, I removed the jumper wire, yet the cart kept going wide open.

Well, at least I know now the cart will run, LOL. Can someone explain to me what happened (other than what usually does when someone does something stupid) and why and possibly what this tells me about the problem with the cart.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me that this indicates a problem with my accelerator or accelerator switch?
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Old 05-04-2017, 12:41 AM   #2
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How did you stop it?
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Old 05-04-2017, 07:17 AM   #3
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How did you stop it?
In terms of motion, it stopped itself when it got hung on the pallet it ran across and almost at the same time hit a heavy hydraulic press.

However, the wheels continued to spin after that for two or 3 seconds and I don't really know why they stopped. I turned off the key but that did not kill it.

The thing is, the accelerator pedal was NOT depressed and it was going wide open (in reverse). It probably would have had a good chance to make Americas Funnies Home Videos.
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Old 05-04-2017, 11:12 AM   #4
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Need a new shop switch in the pedal it sounds

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Old 05-04-2017, 05:12 PM   #5
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Need a new shop switch in the pedal it sounds

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Controller should have been shut down by keyswitch "off".
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Old 05-04-2017, 05:18 PM   #6
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Turning off key will kill motor immediately but with the RPMs they are turning if not stopped by friction, tires will continue to freespin if it's computer and setting are set to 0 engine braking,

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Old 05-04-2017, 07:54 PM   #7
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The hard part is, we don't check no go issues the way you did. So by jumping this and jumping that and now the cart ran away, who knows whats up.
It started off as something easy, but now.....who knows.
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Old 05-04-2017, 08:08 PM   #8
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Just trying to piece this together. When the cart took off wide open, you then removed the jumper wire. It then got hung up with the rear wheels in the air and still running. You then switched the key off and it continued to run for a while then stopped running. Is this correct?
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Just trying to piece this together. When the cart took off wide open, you then removed the jumper wire. It then got hung up with the rear wheels in the air and still running. You then switched the key off and it continued to run for a while then stopped running. Is this correct?
Yes. I cycled the switch twice, but it ran for just a few seconds afterward.

As soon as the cart moved, I released the jumper wire. That means it was was running with power only to one side of the solenoid control circuit. As best as I can tell, It can't run with an open solenoid switch, so the solenoid had to either stick closed or it welded the contacts.

One other variable. I had just connected (for testing purposes) a new Navitas universal 420 Amp controller with the g29 harness adapter.

I think the black wire out of the solenoid I jumpered to negative goes to the #3 pin input to the controller/harness. I am guessing the controller, based on other inputs (throttle, key, Run/tow), closes a switch connecting the #3 pin back to negative post.
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Old 05-04-2017, 11:07 PM   #10
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Did it keep RUNNING or were the wheels just in the air spinning?
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