97 Ezgo Dcs No Go

DANIMALISTIK08 · 12-06-2009, 11:04 AM

I am using the alltrax diagram cause I have the dcx500 controller. I have 36.3v on both sides of large posts all the time except when the key is off and tow/ run switch is off I get 36.3v on battery side and 34.3v on controller side of solenoid. I turned cart on and put in forward and solenoid clicked so I check and I have 36.3v on both large posts so I put cart in nuetral and I heard solenoid click so i checked both posts again and I have the same 36.3v on both large posts. How should the solenoid check out 36v on large post battery side only with all power turned off?

scottyb · 12-06-2009, 11:58 AM

yep

They work the way you have it wired but one it isn't as safe and 2 if left in gear the solenoid is engaged. I wired one that way.... in six months it needed a new solenoid... came to find out the lady who owned it left the key on and parked in gear so it wouldn't roll

Solenoid was on all the time, shudda lasted 10-20 yrs

bond007 · 12-08-2009, 12:00 PM

Yeah, you have power tied in somewhere after the foot switch and before the key switch that's energizing the solenoid. The micros are breaking the power when you switch the f/r and the key switch breaks it when you turn it off. Check the wires all around the foot switch especially where there are several wires connected. Maybe one connected to the wrong side of the foot switch.

DANIMALISTIK08 · 12-08-2009, 12:22 PM

From what I can see is power to throw solenoid is coming from the controller. the foot switch goes directly to controller and then the blue wire from controller to solenoid is suppose the throw it...right? I have been over the diagram multiple times and I have checked my wiring multiple times as well. I checked at foot switch and got 36v going in and when activated I get 36v coming out the other side so I know the micro is working. I have power from key switch to small post on solenoid. My question is could the solenoid be stuck closed and I am just hereing it click but it is not actually moving in side? I have 36.4v on both sides of teh large posts even with key off and tow run switch off. I am thinking this is the problem. I think the solenoid is stuck closed making the circuit. Am I wrong?

scottyb · 12-08-2009, 12:27 PM

Problem is the key wire going to the solenoid.
Key wire should go to the foot peddle micro and then from there to the solenoid... Yes 1/2 of the solenoid activation circuit comes from the controller..... are you still using the alltrax diagram and not the ezgo diagraqm? Try what I said here I think you will be good to go and not have to buy anything

DANIMALISTIK08 · 12-08-2009, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottyb

Problem is the key wire going to the solenoid.
Key wire should go to the foot peddle micro and then from there to the solenoid... Yes 1/2 of the solenoid activation circuit comes from the controller..... are you still using the alltrax diagram and not the ezgo diagraqm? Try what I said here I think you will be good to go and not have to buy anything

scottyb...I don't doubt your ezgo knowlegde but how your saying to wire it is not a factory setup. I would have to redo all teh wiring in order to make that happen. Here is a the ezgo wiring diagram that I found other than alltrax and it is the same, power from run/tow to forward micro to key switch and then to solenoid.

DANIMALISTIK08 · 12-08-2009, 12:52 PM

oops hwere it is:

scottyb · 12-08-2009, 12:54 PM

I appreciate you don't doubt my knowledge. Others smarter than both of us do

The fact remains that your solenoid makes contact when you turn the key on and that is wrong.
A lot gets lost in the interpretation when discussing wiring diagrams here on the forum.... maybe you can post the diagram you are using so we can look at it together with the others who are trying to help here

DANIMALISTIK08 · 12-08-2009, 01:04 PM

Here is the pdf agina for the dcs controllers.

bond007 · 12-08-2009, 02:00 PM

I agree with Scotty, it's not very safe wired the way it is...there is a problem somewhere....again I say check all wires, connections and which side of switches wires are connected to.

Do your tests follow the diagram exactly? does the pedal click when you do test 4? note the key switch open (off) in test 4, closed (on) in tests 5 and 6Also note the charger switch is open and closed in different tests which means you will have to plug the charger in on some tests (not with the charger plugged up) or jump power on the charge switch.
Like they say, the devil is in the details....
Hope this helps

12-06-2009, 11:04 AM	#21
DANIMALISTIK08 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: scottsdale, az Posts: 23	Re: 97 Ezgo Dcs No Go I am using the alltrax diagram cause I have the dcx500 controller. I have 36.3v on both sides of large posts all the time except when the key is off and tow/ run switch is off I get 36.3v on battery side and 34.3v on controller side of solenoid. I turned cart on and put in forward and solenoid clicked so I check and I have 36.3v on both large posts so I put cart in nuetral and I heard solenoid click so i checked both posts again and I have the same 36.3v on both large posts. How should the solenoid check out 36v on large post battery side only with all power turned off?

12-06-2009, 11:58 AM	#22
scottyb Happy Carting Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 73,418	Re: 97 Ezgo Dcs No Go yep They work the way you have it wired but one it isn't as safe and 2 if left in gear the solenoid is engaged. I wired one that way.... in six months it needed a new solenoid... came to find out the lady who owned it left the key on and parked in gear so it wouldn't roll Solenoid was on all the time, shudda lasted 10-20 yrs

12-08-2009, 12:00 PM	#23
bond007 Getting Wild Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Northeast Alabama Posts: 77	Re: 97 Ezgo Dcs No Go Yeah, you have power tied in somewhere after the foot switch and before the key switch that's energizing the solenoid. The micros are breaking the power when you switch the f/r and the key switch breaks it when you turn it off. Check the wires all around the foot switch especially where there are several wires connected. Maybe one connected to the wrong side of the foot switch.

12-08-2009, 12:22 PM	#24
DANIMALISTIK08 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: scottsdale, az Posts: 23	Re: 97 Ezgo Dcs No Go From what I can see is power to throw solenoid is coming from the controller. the foot switch goes directly to controller and then the blue wire from controller to solenoid is suppose the throw it...right? I have been over the diagram multiple times and I have checked my wiring multiple times as well. I checked at foot switch and got 36v going in and when activated I get 36v coming out the other side so I know the micro is working. I have power from key switch to small post on solenoid. My question is could the solenoid be stuck closed and I am just hereing it click but it is not actually moving in side? I have 36.4v on both sides of teh large posts even with key off and tow run switch off. I am thinking this is the problem. I think the solenoid is stuck closed making the circuit. Am I wrong?

12-08-2009, 12:27 PM	#25
scottyb Happy Carting Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 73,418	Re: 97 Ezgo Dcs No Go Problem is the key wire going to the solenoid. Key wire should go to the foot peddle micro and then from there to the solenoid... Yes 1/2 of the solenoid activation circuit comes from the controller..... are you still using the alltrax diagram and not the ezgo diagraqm? Try what I said here I think you will be good to go and not have to buy anything

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12-08-2009, 12:54 PM	#28
scottyb Happy Carting Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 73,418	Re: 97 Ezgo Dcs No Go I appreciate you don't doubt my knowledge. Others smarter than both of us do The fact remains that your solenoid makes contact when you turn the key on and that is wrong. A lot gets lost in the interpretation when discussing wiring diagrams here on the forum.... maybe you can post the diagram you are using so we can look at it together with the others who are trying to help here

12-08-2009, 02:00 PM	#30
bond007 Getting Wild Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Northeast Alabama Posts: 77	Re: 97 Ezgo Dcs No Go I agree with Scotty, it's not very safe wired the way it is...there is a problem somewhere....again I say check all wires, connections and which side of switches wires are connected to. Do your tests follow the diagram exactly? does the pedal click when you do test 4? note the key switch open (off) in test 4, closed (on) in tests 5 and 6Also note the charger switch is open and closed in different tests which means you will have to plug the charger in on some tests (not with the charger plugged up) or jump power on the charge switch. Like they say, the devil is in the details.... Hope this helps