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11-25-2020, 01:53 AM | #11 | |
Gone Wild
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Alabama
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Re: Alignment Idiot Award - I Deserve It
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I used the method in the service manual. I found center of the wheel and put a large framing square at that point. I used a level and a shim to level it up. Taped the shim to the floor. Was only 1/8 low on one side of garage floor. Put painters tape on floor so I would measure the same center spot each time. I measured off the lower edge of the rim using needle calipers. The framing square was flush with the tops of both rims. Initially, the left tire was about 1/2 inch further in than the right. Did I do it correctly using this method?? Thank you for taking my award away from me. |
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11-25-2020, 02:06 AM | #12 | |
Gone Wild
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Location: Alabama
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Re: Alignment Idiot Award - I Deserve It
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It's a reprieve! I'm so relieved!! I guess being a novice does have it's perks. |
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11-25-2020, 02:42 AM | #13 | |
Gone Insane
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Richmond, VA
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Re: Alignment Idiot Award - I Deserve It
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Please don't anyone think I am acting like a ""know it all" when I say this. That video above is useless unless: 1) That floor is 100% level. 2) The body on that cart is 100% level with the frame. 3) The rear springs are 100% equal on both sides. 4) The same wheels/ tires equally inflated. The best way to determine these (in an average shop/garage) things is to use a stringline front to back across the tires front to back. Of course, with the front "tracking width" being more narrow than the rear on (most) golf carts that is impossible. I would suggest using something on one tire to to eliminate this, such as a piece of wood that would widen the front stance to match the rear, which would be 1/2 the difference. Run a string to that and lock down the steering wheel. You can then determine the toe in /out. Adjust from there. Of course you run the risk of having the steering wheel thrown out of "center." You should make adjustments equally on both sides to avoid this. I have never had a golf cart that needed adjustments to be this precise. Just thought I would throw this out to help with understanding. |
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11-25-2020, 11:23 AM | #14 | |
Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: near Calgary, AB, Canada
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Re: Alignment Idiot Award - I Deserve It
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It turns out that both "toe in" and "camber" were discussed ... but my comments were directed to the camber question in CCNorth's last line . I can see why Mooncarter may have digressed ... but his valuable "toe in" information was provided just the same. CCNorth - Your "camber" setting procedure sounds fine. I thought that the plumb bob procedure "could" be more accurate as it takes the "finding vertical with a level" process out of the equation ... within the limitations that Mooncarter has correctly pointed out. I always have trouble using a level to find that "exact" level point and like the way the video used the plumb bob line as the measurement reference. I think that a 2 foot level is a "good enough" tool for building a chicken coop (or a house), but wheel alignment "may" require more precision. |
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11-25-2020, 01:14 PM | #15 |
Gone Loco
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: South Florida
Posts: 1,123
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Re: Alignment Idiot Award - I Deserve It
Many many moons ago I did suspension work on my Monte Carlo and was not able to reuse the cotter pin on the lower ball joint. "Oh, it'll hold for a little while..." It did not. Castle nut came off, suspension collapsed. Fortunately I was in the parking lot and nothing was damaged. I paid the stupid tax that day and learned a huge lesson!!
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11-25-2020, 02:08 PM | #16 |
Old Sky Soldier
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 3,881
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Re: Alignment Idiot Award - I Deserve It
The good old stupid tax
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11-25-2020, 03:58 PM | #17 | |
Gone Wild
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Ramer, AL
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11-25-2020, 06:58 PM | #18 | |
Gone Wild
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Cape Coral FL
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Some of us once or twice. |
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11-26-2020, 01:06 AM | #19 |
Gone Wild
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Alabama
Posts: 772
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Re: Alignment Idiot Award - I Deserve It
Thanks guys! Y'all have made me feel much better.
I happy that you are still here to tell the story after those mishaps! |
11-29-2020, 12:17 AM | #20 |
Gone Wild
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Alabama
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Re: Alignment Idiot Award - I Deserve It
I think I found the problem. If not, it's someting that needs to be fixed.
After I tightened the lug nuts, that I failed to tighten before, I rechecked the camber and it needed a slight adjustment. Adjusted with no problem. Then, moved to continue trying to correct ton-in. I had the threads on the tie rods very unequal in order to get the left tire fairly straight. Something just wasn't right. I took the tie rods ends off the spindle and straighten the tires and steering wheel. I removed the tie rod ends to start over installing them. When I took the left one off I noticed the tie rod was veryyyy limp. The right one would stay up when I lifted it. The left would fall straight down like it had no "pressure". Obviously, something on the left side of the steering rack has failed. Am I right to assume this "loss of pressure" on the left side is why I am unable to get the toe-in correct on that side?? |
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