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04-29-2022, 12:07 PM | #1 |
Not Yet Wild
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Lost half my power
I have a 2013 Precedent 6 seater with Plum Quick Bandit motor, new batteries, and unknown controller. While driving down a hill under full power it suddenly made a squealing/rubbing/grinding sound. Stopped and couldn't find anything noticeably wrong. Since then the power has been. About half what it was while going up steep hills and top speed is slower. Another curious thing is that it no longer slows down automatically when you let off the pedal.
Any ideas on where I should start. I was going to call plum quick Monday as I suspect something with the motor. Thanks |
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04-29-2022, 12:24 PM | #2 |
Gone Wild
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Re: Lost half my power
I would suspect the controller not the motor based on your symptoms.
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04-29-2022, 01:38 PM | #3 |
Not Yet Wild
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Re: Lost half my power
Does the controller or motor do the slowdown when you're off the pedal? I assume that it is in the motor. That is why I believe the motor is the problem.
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04-29-2022, 02:44 PM | #4 |
Nincompoop village idiot
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Re: Lost half my power
How fast were you going? I’m guessing you probably over revved the motor going full pedal down a hill. They’re only designed to spin so many rpm. Exceed that and they become unhappy.
I’m surprised you had any regen before this happened, from what I recall reading their website they disable regen with the bandit? I’d call plum quick and ask, but I’m thinking the motor sustained damage. |
04-29-2022, 03:03 PM | #5 |
Happy Carting
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Re: Lost half my power
I'm all in for helping anybody who can post " Lost half may power" with a smiley face
My bet is the motor based upon the downhill sudden occurrence of the noise and subsequent loss of power. If you have some free time, loosen the motor and slide it out 1/2 inch then try to get you nose close to the opening and see if you can smell that unmistakable burnt electrical odor. |
04-29-2022, 04:15 PM | #6 |
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04-29-2022, 04:32 PM | #7 |
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Re: Lost half my power
Kinda depends how fast you were going, but I agree with Scotty and CP, haul arsin down a hill at full pedal will make the motor try to expand itself.
The centrifugal force tears the armature apart. Usually it results in a Big Bang sorta situation, and it fills the motor case with copper spaghetti. Need to open the motor up and have a peek. https://plumquick.com/bandit-electri...or-temperature |
04-29-2022, 04:47 PM | #8 |
Gone Wild
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Re: Lost half my power
Based on this statement, you were operating the cart under no load and effectively over-revved the motor beyond specs. If you achieved a faster speed than when you run on level pavement, I believe the motor was damaged. The brushes and commutator have a maximum speed they can live with.
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05-06-2022, 08:30 PM | #9 |
Not Yet Wild
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Re: Lost half my power
Just an update.
Cart is still running with less power. I talked with Plum Quick and it definitely sounds like the motor and it was over revved. I have a 350amp Curtis controllerin it now. It looks like that will get upgraded and a Plum Quick Rhino will be going in. Anyone have recommendations on controller. It seems like Navitas and Alltrax are my 2 options. |
05-06-2022, 08:41 PM | #10 |
Not Yet Wild
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Re: Lost half my power
I also ordered an LED glow 6 seater underbody kit to replace the current kit that flickers for a second then cuts out. And one of the tubes is out with no continuity. Next up is getting the radio/speakers working.
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