Where to go from here

jb-mck · 04-01-2018, 09:32 PM

Got the lift fully installed but I now have brake issues. To install the kit, the instructions say to disconnect the brake cable retainer from their mount and to tie them out of the way. That won’t work, right? Brakes are soft and go to the floor. Next weekend I will machine a new retainer for the cables.

Any short cuts before I spend 4 hours fabing something up?

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Rooster59 · 04-02-2018, 05:59 AM

Seems like they meant to remove the retainer temporarily. Are you not able to reattach the cables like they were now that the lift is installed?

jb-mck · 04-02-2018, 07:41 AM

Correct. The retainer bracket is now too low. It needs to be raised about 1.5 inches.

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Rooster59 · 04-02-2018, 08:07 AM

The instructions appear to say undo the tie straps on each side, probably near the brake backing plates. Then re-tie the cables to the rear springs. Did you undo something metal that needs to be remachined? I am unfamiliar with the brake cables on your style cart so I can't be a lot of help. Just reading the instructions it makes it sound like the ties are not metal. Maybe you moved or detached the wrong item?

jb-mck · 04-02-2018, 09:36 AM

Yes, the retainer was a metal bracket the cable went through. It is held in place by a C clip. The spring is too close to that bracket (appears to me). If I reconnect, assuming I can, then the spring is going to wear the cable out.

I will take some photos this afternoon. I must have goofed something up, or this would be a known fix. More to follow..... Thanks

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Rooster59 · 04-02-2018, 09:43 AM

I thought it might be something like that. The bracket with c-clip is the cable anchor at the operational point. That has to remain. As you have found. I believe this is a case where some have flipped the backing plates or something so the brake cable is underneat the axle instead of above the axle. Which is what I suppose you have. My 1996 TXT already had the cable exiting the brake backing plate underneath the axle and I don't have the interference issue you are describing.

At least I think that is what is going on with your application. A pic might help to clarify.

jb-mck · 04-04-2018, 06:52 PM

IMG_1321.jpg IMG_1320.jpg IMG_1319.jpg

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jb-mck · 04-04-2018, 06:53 PM

Front, rear and overhead of cable system. It looks like they may go back with some effort but I would have to do something about the rubbing on the spring.

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jb-mck · 04-04-2018, 07:14 PM

It’s not complete without a picture of the bird dog!IMG_1329.jpg

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Rooster59 · 04-05-2018, 07:55 AM

Can't imagine how the brakes can work without the cable solidly anchored at both ends.

Good looking bird dog.

04-01-2018, 09:32 PM	#21
jb-mck Not Yet Wild Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 27	Re: Where to go from here Got the lift fully installed but I now have brake issues. To install the kit, the instructions say to disconnect the brake cable retainer from their mount and to tie them out of the way. That won’t work, right? Brakes are soft and go to the floor. Next weekend I will machine a new retainer for the cables. Any short cuts before I spend 4 hours fabing something up? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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04-02-2018, 05:59 AM	#22
Rooster59 Gone Wild Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: East Central Missouri Posts: 1,955	Re: Where to go from here Seems like they meant to remove the retainer temporarily. Are you not able to reattach the cables like they were now that the lift is installed?

04-02-2018, 07:41 AM	#23
jb-mck Not Yet Wild Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 27	Where to go from here Correct. The retainer bracket is now too low. It needs to be raised about 1.5 inches. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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04-02-2018, 08:07 AM	#24
Rooster59 Gone Wild Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: East Central Missouri Posts: 1,955	Re: Where to go from here The instructions appear to say undo the tie straps on each side, probably near the brake backing plates. Then re-tie the cables to the rear springs. Did you undo something metal that needs to be remachined? I am unfamiliar with the brake cables on your style cart so I can't be a lot of help. Just reading the instructions it makes it sound like the ties are not metal. Maybe you moved or detached the wrong item?

04-02-2018, 09:36 AM	#25
jb-mck Not Yet Wild Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 27	Re: Where to go from here Yes, the retainer was a metal bracket the cable went through. It is held in place by a C clip. The spring is too close to that bracket (appears to me). If I reconnect, assuming I can, then the spring is going to wear the cable out. I will take some photos this afternoon. I must have goofed something up, or this would be a known fix. More to follow..... Thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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04-02-2018, 09:43 AM	#26
Rooster59 Gone Wild Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: East Central Missouri Posts: 1,955	Re: Where to go from here I thought it might be something like that. The bracket with c-clip is the cable anchor at the operational point. That has to remain. As you have found. I believe this is a case where some have flipped the backing plates or something so the brake cable is underneat the axle instead of above the axle. Which is what I suppose you have. My 1996 TXT already had the cable exiting the brake backing plate underneath the axle and I don't have the interference issue you are describing. At least I think that is what is going on with your application. A pic might help to clarify.

04-04-2018, 06:52 PM	#27
jb-mck Not Yet Wild Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 27	Re: Where to go from here IMG_1321.jpg IMG_1320.jpg IMG_1319.jpg Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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04-04-2018, 06:53 PM	#28
jb-mck Not Yet Wild Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 27	Re: Where to go from here Front, rear and overhead of cable system. It looks like they may go back with some effort but I would have to do something about the rubbing on the spring. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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04-04-2018, 07:14 PM	#29
jb-mck Not Yet Wild Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 27	Re: Where to go from here It’s not complete without a picture of the bird dog!IMG_1329.jpg Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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04-05-2018, 07:55 AM	#30
Rooster59 Gone Wild Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: East Central Missouri Posts: 1,955	Re: Where to go from here Can't imagine how the brakes can work without the cable solidly anchored at both ends. Good looking bird dog.