Starter/generator max speed?

veee8 · 12-16-2008, 06:23 PM

I have bypassed the governor and disabled the limiter etc... The cart moves out real well, I barely have to give it 1/2 throttle or so when rolling to maintain high speeds, so I don't over rev the engine.
Now twice, I have taken it out like I usually do for a trip around the grounds. Again just barely spinning the engine to around 3000-3500 rpm's. I will stop, and go back to the cart, and it will not engage the starter motor. The solenoid clicks, which is an oem unit that is quite new. I check with a voltmeter, and it is sending 12v to the starter. But will not engage, I tried jumpering it with a wire to be sure, and the starter/genertor is dead. So I had another one, that was almost new, put it on, and it fired right up and worked great. Until I went on the same route, and it did it again. Now this only like 3-5 minutes of use at a time. Any ideas? The battery has a good charge, and the solenoid is new and working. Am I over spinning them, or should I look at something else.

DOOmsman · 12-16-2008, 06:34 PM

I am new at carts but this is what i would try. Take first starter and test off cart with jumpers and if bad tear it down and inspect for what happened. Sorry I can't say look at X but maybe others on here can help. This group has a lot of diferant talents and backgrounds. PLEASE keep us posted so many times we never get to hear the outcome.

johnscram · 12-16-2008, 09:05 PM

i would like to say a loose wire maybe but i think its really weird that it happened on both

veee8 · 12-16-2008, 10:16 PM

Yeah obviously something is wrong for both starters to be wiped out.
All the wires were clean and secure.

GLEEMO · 12-17-2008, 08:53 AM

So does it start back up after it has cooled off ?

veee8 · 12-17-2008, 10:50 AM

No, even left it for a day or 2 before trying it again. Once it is dead, it is dead.

GLEEMO · 12-17-2008, 11:08 AM

So now if you go back and put the original back on does it now work ?

veee8 · 12-17-2008, 11:33 AM

No, it is dead.

Big Bump · 12-17-2008, 12:28 PM

I would take the first one to a starter/alternator shop and let
them take a look at it.

DOOmsman · 12-17-2008, 12:34 PM

Tell us about engine and what pulleys you have, maybe one bigger or smaller than stock making starter rev higher and cracking armature?

12-16-2008, 06:23 PM	#1
veee8 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wilmington, North Carolina Posts: 22	Starter/generator max speed? I have bypassed the governor and disabled the limiter etc... The cart moves out real well, I barely have to give it 1/2 throttle or so when rolling to maintain high speeds, so I don't over rev the engine. Now twice, I have taken it out like I usually do for a trip around the grounds. Again just barely spinning the engine to around 3000-3500 rpm's. I will stop, and go back to the cart, and it will not engage the starter motor. The solenoid clicks, which is an oem unit that is quite new. I check with a voltmeter, and it is sending 12v to the starter. But will not engage, I tried jumpering it with a wire to be sure, and the starter/genertor is dead. So I had another one, that was almost new, put it on, and it fired right up and worked great. Until I went on the same route, and it did it again. Now this only like 3-5 minutes of use at a time. Any ideas? The battery has a good charge, and the solenoid is new and working. Am I over spinning them, or should I look at something else.

12-16-2008, 06:34 PM	#2
DOOmsman Gone Wild Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Reddick IL Posts: 11,220	Re: Starter/generator max speed? I am new at carts but this is what i would try. Take first starter and test off cart with jumpers and if bad tear it down and inspect for what happened. Sorry I can't say look at X but maybe others on here can help. This group has a lot of diferant talents and backgrounds. PLEASE keep us posted so many times we never get to hear the outcome.

12-16-2008, 09:05 PM	#3
johnscram Gone Wild Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 192	Re: Starter/generator max speed? i would like to say a loose wire maybe but i think its really weird that it happened on both
johnscram Gone Wild Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 192

12-16-2008, 10:16 PM	#4
veee8 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wilmington, North Carolina Posts: 22	Re: Starter/generator max speed? Yeah obviously something is wrong for both starters to be wiped out. All the wires were clean and secure.

12-17-2008, 08:53 AM	#5
GLEEMO just leave me alone Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 5,643	Re: Starter/generator max speed? So does it start back up after it has cooled off ?

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12-17-2008, 10:50 AM	#6
veee8 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wilmington, North Carolina Posts: 22	Re: Starter/generator max speed? No, even left it for a day or 2 before trying it again. Once it is dead, it is dead.

12-17-2008, 11:08 AM	#7
GLEEMO just leave me alone Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 5,643	Re: Starter/generator max speed? So now if you go back and put the original back on does it now work ?

12-17-2008, 11:33 AM	#8
veee8 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wilmington, North Carolina Posts: 22	Re: Starter/generator max speed? No, it is dead.

12-17-2008, 12:28 PM	#9
Big Bump Getting Wild Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 90	Re: Starter/generator max speed? I would take the first one to a starter/alternator shop and let them take a look at it.
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12-17-2008, 12:34 PM	#10
DOOmsman Gone Wild Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Reddick IL Posts: 11,220	Re: Starter/generator max speed? Tell us about engine and what pulleys you have, maybe one bigger or smaller than stock making starter rev higher and cracking armature?

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