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03-19-2014, 10:01 PM | #1 |
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Alltrax 400 amp need more torque....bad
Ok local cart shop installed a new motor not sure of what kind right now, I installed new Alltrax 400 from scotty.
Speed is fine on flat ground and down hill it's really fast. I've got 10" rims and tires but this cart is walking up long hills. So how do I gain torque, it's the last piece of the puzzle. I've got the original cables and F&R switch, so do I splurge with scotty and upgrade to 4 gauge cable kit and HD F&R switch? How much % wise in torque should I gain. If not much what's next? |
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03-19-2014, 10:22 PM | #2 |
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Re: Alltrax 400 amp need more torque....bad
Oh one more note this was a club car refurbished cart. It's a 2007 precedent and it appears to have 4 gauge cables on everything except the actual battery cables. They are certainly smaller than the cables on the controller etc.
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03-20-2014, 12:30 AM | #3 |
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Re: Alltrax 400 amp need more torque....bad
Post a picture of the motor. You should have good torque with a motor and controller upgrade.
What size tires are they? Is it lifted? There is no HD rocker switch because full voltage doesn't pass through like the series f/r switches. All high voltage cables should be upgraded to 4ga min |
03-20-2014, 07:40 AM | #4 |
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Re: Alltrax 400 amp need more torque....bad
If your going to upgrade cables go 2g, you will appreciate that under a load such going up a hill. Wire is like plumbing, you have stock cables, probably 6 gauge. In relation to a water hose that is connected to a 1" valve and the hose being 1/2" Your not going to allow all of the potential water flow through that restricted hose. I just upgraded my cart, completely stock, put 2 gauge wires, no increase at all until i put it under a load, climbing a hill, then I noticed it jump up so much better than with the stock 6 gauge wires. My point being, your only as good as the weakest link, complete your upgrade, talk to scotty again I'm sure he knows what you need. Did you also upgrade the solenoid, that is also part of the equation?
Edit, saw your second post, you may have larger wires, so If what you'r saying is just the battery cables then at least complete the upgrade on those. |
03-20-2014, 08:05 AM | #5 |
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Re: Alltrax 400 amp need more torque....bad
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03-20-2014, 09:01 AM | #6 |
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Re: Alltrax 400 amp need more torque....bad
2ga is overkill for 400A IMO. If you have the funds and maybe plan on upgrading to larger in the future then grab the 2ga. If not the 4ga should be fine
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03-20-2014, 09:27 AM | #7 | |
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Re: Alltrax 400 amp need more torque....bad
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03-20-2014, 09:32 AM | #8 |
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Re: Alltrax 400 amp need more torque....bad
Hey guys thanks for the info a couple more items or followup.
The cart isn't lifted, the tires are 20.5 x 8 x 10. Upgraded the solenoid as well thru scotty. As far as the motor it was replaced with the standard Club car motor for the club car precedent, again speed is fine torque not so fine so if I could get more torque out of that motor great, if not I'm going to replace the motor again. They put the motor on last year without a phone call so I would have upgraded it then.. UGGGRRR! My actual battery connecting wire is all 6 gauge but the cables going to the controller, thru solenoid and to the motor are all 4 gauge. Also one other quick note the wire going to the positive and negative side of the 48 volt is 4 gauge as well so we're only really talking about 6 gauge wires connecting the batteries to each other. Is this going to make a difference? Thanks again. |
03-20-2014, 09:35 AM | #9 |
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Re: Alltrax 400 amp need more torque....bad
Yes upgrade these cables and you'll notice the difference when you put it under load. It shouldn't be that expensive to update only part of your wires being the rest was already 4g.
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03-20-2014, 09:54 AM | #10 | |
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