G1 not starting now!

Ranger1 · 11-02-2010, 02:07 PM

Ugh!!!!!!!
I am ready to get this thing finished. We got it started and ran it around a few times a couple of weeks ago and it has been sitting other than moving it back and forth from under the canopy. It started raining today so I thought I would get in out of the rain to put the finishing touches on and then....
All it will do is crank, not turn over. I got it to turn over one time in reverse (not the direction I needed to go) but when I tried to go forward again, it would not even crank!
I lifted the body and a small bit of smoke was coming from the wire attached to the S/G going to the solenoid.
Please help me figure this out before i loose the rest of my hair

GMB74 · 11-02-2010, 07:26 PM

If you had smoke coming from your wiring, that indicates heat and a bad connection. Check your wiring connections, especially the one that was smoking.

mannyvillegas · 11-02-2010, 08:00 PM

The negative (A1) from the starter gen would not be smoking. It's the F2 probably (not wire but cable). Still, it should not smoke if only because of loose connection. Probably grounded.

The other small wires go to the voltage regulator. The red wire could be grounded.

Ranger1 · 11-03-2010, 01:20 AM

I will check these things in the morning!
I was reading a post on here earlier that caused me to question some of the wiring that was reconnected after the rebuild.However I did visit a shop locally and visually verified on a G1 they had in for repair, the wiring that we had done.

We shall see.
Thanks for you replies, it means allot to us newbies!!!

Ranger1 · 11-08-2010, 05:51 PM

Ok, so I guess it is normal for there to be a bit of gas in air filter or coming from the carb?/!

The G2 that I bought has it in there as well.
I read some threads on here that stated the foam gasket that goes in the breather is very important to the way the cart runs. Is this the case?

GMB74 · 11-08-2010, 08:17 PM

G1's have 2-cycle engines and are quite a bit different than all subsequent Yamaha models. There is no foam gasket in the air filter box on a G1, there may be one on the top of the air filter element. It should not affect starting whether it is there or not. What is the status of your cart now? Does the engine crank over? If not, you need to diagnose that problem first. Your smoking wiring indicates a problem there. If it cranks but will not start, I would suspect a fouled sparkplug due to repeated starting and short run time. The engine has to be run on choke because it is cold, and the sparkplug gets loaded up. Give us some more info and we can help you out.

Ranger1 · 11-09-2010, 07:49 PM

The cart starts and runs now. I think the battery was just week. I charged it and it started (with a little choke) and ran it. I drove it around to the front of the house and back a couple of times... up and down the road once, and it runs... just ok... It doesn't climb a hill with allot of speed, in other words, it seems to need adjusting. Down hill or on level ground it runs fine.
Having said that I would say that I wonder if I have the Fuel/Oil mix right...
It smokes quite a bit. I seem to remember reading a post on here that said to mix it 35-to-1.
again, any info will be greatly appreciated.

Ranger1 · 11-10-2010, 08:42 PM

I really need help on this if anyone has any more thoughts.
We NEED to take this back to the camp this Friday!

We can drive it but it smokes allot and it doesn't go as fast as we know it should.
We do not need to choke it very much to get it started and running, but it still won't climb a hill that well.

GMB74 · 11-10-2010, 08:50 PM

http://www.buggiesgonewild.com/gas-y...g-fuel-g1.html

If it runs good but won't go fast, check your clutches to see if they are sticking. They may not be upshifting properly. Disassemble and lube.

Ranger1 · 11-10-2010, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMB74

http://www.buggiesgonewild.com/gas-y...g-fuel-g1.html

If it runs good but won't go fast, check your clutches to see if they are sticking. They may not be upshifting properly. Disassemble and lube.

Ouch! That reply hurts!
Can this be done on a day ?(for the novice)
Also, the Smoking issue, I know that being a 2 cycle it will smoke some, but it seems a bit excessive.
What is the best fuel/oil mix?

11-02-2010, 02:07 PM	#1
Ranger1 Getting Wild Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tyler, Texas Posts: 126	G1 not starting now! Ugh!!!!!!! I am ready to get this thing finished. We got it started and ran it around a few times a couple of weeks ago and it has been sitting other than moving it back and forth from under the canopy. It started raining today so I thought I would get in out of the rain to put the finishing touches on and then.... All it will do is crank, not turn over. I got it to turn over one time in reverse (not the direction I needed to go) but when I tried to go forward again, it would not even crank! I lifted the body and a small bit of smoke was coming from the wire attached to the S/G going to the solenoid. Please help me figure this out before i loose the rest of my hair

11-02-2010, 07:26 PM	#2
GMB74 Gone Wild Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Heluvabump,VT Posts: 623	Re: G1 not starting now! If you had smoke coming from your wiring, that indicates heat and a bad connection. Check your wiring connections, especially the one that was smoking.

11-02-2010, 08:00 PM	#3
mannyvillegas Getting Wild Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: California Posts: 93	Re: G1 not starting now! The negative (A1) from the starter gen would not be smoking. It's the F2 probably (not wire but cable). Still, it should not smoke if only because of loose connection. Probably grounded. The other small wires go to the voltage regulator. The red wire could be grounded.

11-03-2010, 01:20 AM	#4
Ranger1 Getting Wild Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tyler, Texas Posts: 126	Re: G1 not starting now! I will check these things in the morning! I was reading a post on here earlier that caused me to question some of the wiring that was reconnected after the rebuild.However I did visit a shop locally and visually verified on a G1 they had in for repair, the wiring that we had done. We shall see. Thanks for you replies, it means allot to us newbies!!!

11-08-2010, 05:51 PM	#5
Ranger1 Getting Wild Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tyler, Texas Posts: 126	Re: G1 not starting now! Ok, so I guess it is normal for there to be a bit of gas in air filter or coming from the carb?/! The G2 that I bought has it in there as well. I read some threads on here that stated the foam gasket that goes in the breather is very important to the way the cart runs. Is this the case?

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11-08-2010, 08:17 PM	#6
GMB74 Gone Wild Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Heluvabump,VT Posts: 623	Re: G1 not starting now! G1's have 2-cycle engines and are quite a bit different than all subsequent Yamaha models. There is no foam gasket in the air filter box on a G1, there may be one on the top of the air filter element. It should not affect starting whether it is there or not. What is the status of your cart now? Does the engine crank over? If not, you need to diagnose that problem first. Your smoking wiring indicates a problem there. If it cranks but will not start, I would suspect a fouled sparkplug due to repeated starting and short run time. The engine has to be run on choke because it is cold, and the sparkplug gets loaded up. Give us some more info and we can help you out.

11-09-2010, 07:49 PM	#7
Ranger1 Getting Wild Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tyler, Texas Posts: 126	Re: G1 not starting now! The cart starts and runs now. I think the battery was just week. I charged it and it started (with a little choke) and ran it. I drove it around to the front of the house and back a couple of times... up and down the road once, and it runs... just ok... It doesn't climb a hill with allot of speed, in other words, it seems to need adjusting. Down hill or on level ground it runs fine. Having said that I would say that I wonder if I have the Fuel/Oil mix right... It smokes quite a bit. I seem to remember reading a post on here that said to mix it 35-to-1. again, any info will be greatly appreciated.

11-10-2010, 08:42 PM	#8
Ranger1 Getting Wild Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tyler, Texas Posts: 126	Re: G1 not starting now! I really need help on this if anyone has any more thoughts. We NEED to take this back to the camp this Friday! We can drive it but it smokes allot and it doesn't go as fast as we know it should. We do not need to choke it very much to get it started and running, but it still won't climb a hill that well.

11-10-2010, 08:50 PM	#9
GMB74 Gone Wild Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Heluvabump,VT Posts: 623	Re: G1 not starting now! http://www.buggiesgonewild.com/gas-y...g-fuel-g1.html If it runs good but won't go fast, check your clutches to see if they are sticking. They may not be upshifting properly. Disassemble and lube.

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