Poor Braking

[LJ12530]

Friend's cart was hard to stop with the brakes fully engaged.
Took off the drum and found a lot of metal (1)
Noted a lot of glazing on the shoes (2) -- Note: this is a repeat problem
Noted that the inner part of the shoes are actually rubbing against the back plate when engaged (3)
Pulled a shoe out from the backplate and can see where it is rubbing on the backplate (4)

Sanded the shoes enough to remove the glaze.

The drum/backplate are designed such that the drum extends over the backplate. I have noted on other carts that a ridge of metal develops on the drum closest to the backplate. This makes sense because the drum overlaps the backplate. I realize that I could sand down the ridge on the back of the shoes to "fix" this issue temporarily, but I'd rather get opinions from this forum before doing so.

Questions
Is the fact that the shoes, when brakes applied, actually rub against the lip on the backplate normal?

Do the shoes appear to be the correct ones for this brake setup?

Should the shoes be shimmed out, by design, such that they do not contact the backplate when engaged?

[NoleFan4Ever]

I can't see the side view but there is a leading and trailing shoe, so be sure they are correctly installed and not reversed.

I have never had the rubbing you describe and have not had to shim any before either.

[theboss20]

First...brake shoes are designed to slide on the backing plate and if that contact area is dirty, pitted, rough then you need to clean it and it some cases grind it or file the contact spots smooth then lubricate those spots with a white lithium lube. Then make sure the hold-down pins are there and in the correct location. The unusual wear on the brake shoe looks like the hold-down pins with spring loaded keepers are bad or missing or? If all these things are correct there should not be any rubbing or unusual wear on the brake shoes...with regards to leading and following shoes...the shoe towards the front of the cart should be shorter and the longer one would be toward the rear...this should be the same on both sides. Hope this helps.

[LJ12530]

Everything in place and functioning properly. Same problem 4 months ago. Removed the glaze and everything worked fine until recently then the braking started to degrade. I did not look to make sure the shoes were installed in the proper orientation. I’ll do that when the cart is available.
Thx for your response.

[LJ12530]

Pics of the installed shoes.

Anyone see any problems with the setup?

[Htownblue]

Make sure your trail and lead shoes are installed on the correct sides.

[LJ12530]

The pic is on the driver side. Front of the cart is left. 7L is showing is showing at the top of the shoe. I know the leading shoe is actually the one to the rear so it looks ok to me.

[mrgolf]

Both of those shoes look the same?

[theboss20]

The primary shoe...other wise known as the lead brake shoe should have shorter friction material than the secondary or following brake shoe.

[WalterM6]

Check these pages out. They may help.

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/80...page=55#manual