Anybody Convert To Key Start???

mikesmotortoys · 11-24-2009, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesmotortoys

Air cooled motor + idle when not moving = heat problems...

I know it's been done, but my question is why?

My 2 cents...

Like I said above - This is my opinion. You points are all good and correct

Just not something I would do for myself...

AirJunky · 11-24-2009, 06:44 PM

Aren't these belt drive systems similar to those used on sleds & ATVs? And they don't have belt issues (well, most of them don't).
Seems odd to me to start & stop the engine multiple times over the course of a few minutes.... rather than just starting once & running till your done with the cart.

lockman1 · 11-24-2009, 08:56 PM

MIKE... such restraint!!! I'm proud of you!

look... everybody seems to have a valid point...
I like my cart to idle, because "it's different"
and I NEVER let it idle too long because of the wear on the mechanicals,

Just remember... there is NO fan, radiator, or anything else to keep your engine cool...
shut it down whenever you can... or just keep driving!

Disclaimer:

This information is not recommended by myself, BGW, or any Golf Car manufacturer,
it is solely YOUR responsiblity for your actions, and modifications,
that may prove to be detremental to the extended life of your Golf Car!

daydreamer1948 · 11-24-2009, 09:48 PM

Like I said,it is an air cooled engine,and there IS a fan that constantly blows air over the cylinder,and head. It can idle forever and it will not overheat.

BigBlockMan · 11-24-2009, 09:49 PM

NO FAN? Did you take it off?
Cause it sure had one. LOL
It's a preference thing like Mike said.
Here's my $.02 as long as your clutch's are working correctly, Idling is fine ever notice how they leave semi's idle. And to show you it applies here, The KF82 used in Club Car was originally built for construction equipment. Seen some idle (1200 rpm) for 30 days they would shut down, change oil and start up for another 30 days nonstop.

We setup 95% of all carts we sell to work like Lockmans, Start with pedal stay running till you turn key off. It does work best on Club Cars though as the starter is not energerized when idling until pedal is pushed.

mikesmotortoys · 11-24-2009, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman1

MIKE... such restraint!!! I'm proud of you!

Tom makes some great points

I don't have much eperience with the Club Cars...

IDLE AWAY

lockman1 · 11-24-2009, 10:03 PM

(yep... I forgot about the flywheel/fan... I was thinking external!)

Mr. T... good to see ya! (got a winter order for ya', and no... not a BB, ummm... yet!)

and what Mike said... IDLE AWAY!

My disclaimer still stands!

AirJunky · 11-24-2009, 10:07 PM

Well, I just tried to disconnect each of the wires on the key switch of my Marathon & it doesn't even try to start in either case. I traced the wires to what appears to be the coil & to another switch of some kind (by the key). I tried disconnecting a couple other wires but struck out.

BigBlockMan · 11-24-2009, 10:46 PM

Thanks Don, Just give me a call when ready?

Airjunky, Sorry I dont know the procedure for a marathon and it may not even work, Perhaps Mike or another member can shed some light on this.

AirJunky · 11-24-2009, 11:37 PM

Thanks. Guess I just need to figure out where the kill switch is in the Marathon.

11-24-2009, 06:44 PM	#12
AirJunky Gone Wild Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Liberty Lake, WA. Posts: 1,762	Re: Anybody Convert To Key Start??? Aren't these belt drive systems similar to those used on sleds & ATVs? And they don't have belt issues (well, most of them don't). Seems odd to me to start & stop the engine multiple times over the course of a few minutes.... rather than just starting once & running till your done with the cart.

11-24-2009, 08:56 PM	#13
lockman1 What the ....? Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N.E. Wisconsin Posts: 14,932	Re: Anybody Convert To Key Start??? MIKE... such restraint!!! I'm proud of you! look... everybody seems to have a valid point... I like my cart to idle, because "it's different" and I NEVER let it idle too long because of the wear on the mechanicals, Just remember... there is NO fan, radiator, or anything else to keep your engine cool... shut it down whenever you can... or just keep driving! Disclaimer: This information is not recommended by myself, BGW, or any Golf Car manufacturer, it is solely YOUR responsiblity for your actions, and modifications, that may prove to be detremental to the extended life of your Golf Car!

11-24-2009, 09:48 PM	#14
daydreamer1948 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 20	Re: Anybody Convert To Key Start??? Like I said,it is an air cooled engine,and there IS a fan that constantly blows air over the cylinder,and head. It can idle forever and it will not overheat.

11-24-2009, 09:49 PM	#15
BigBlockMan Gone Wild Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Southwest Georgia Posts: 1,469	Re: Anybody Convert To Key Start??? NO FAN? Did you take it off? Cause it sure had one. LOL It's a preference thing like Mike said. Here's my $.02 as long as your clutch's are working correctly, Idling is fine ever notice how they leave semi's idle. And to show you it applies here, The KF82 used in Club Car was originally built for construction equipment. Seen some idle (1200 rpm) for 30 days they would shut down, change oil and start up for another 30 days nonstop. We setup 95% of all carts we sell to work like Lockmans, Start with pedal stay running till you turn key off. It does work best on Club Cars though as the starter is not energerized when idling until pedal is pushed.

11-24-2009, 10:03 PM	#17
lockman1 What the ....? Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N.E. Wisconsin Posts: 14,932	Re: Anybody Convert To Key Start??? (yep... I forgot about the flywheel/fan... I was thinking external!) Mr. T... good to see ya! (got a winter order for ya', and no... not a BB, ummm... yet!) and what Mike said... IDLE AWAY! My disclaimer still stands!

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11-24-2009, 10:07 PM	#18
AirJunky Gone Wild Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Liberty Lake, WA. Posts: 1,762	Re: Anybody Convert To Key Start??? Well, I just tried to disconnect each of the wires on the key switch of my Marathon & it doesn't even try to start in either case. I traced the wires to what appears to be the coil & to another switch of some kind (by the key). I tried disconnecting a couple other wires but struck out.

11-24-2009, 10:46 PM	#19
BigBlockMan Gone Wild Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Southwest Georgia Posts: 1,469	Re: Anybody Convert To Key Start??? Thanks Don, Just give me a call when ready? Airjunky, Sorry I dont know the procedure for a marathon and it may not even work, Perhaps Mike or another member can shed some light on this.

11-24-2009, 11:37 PM	#20
AirJunky Gone Wild Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Liberty Lake, WA. Posts: 1,762	Re: Anybody Convert To Key Start??? Thanks. Guess I just need to figure out where the kill switch is in the Marathon.

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