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01-26-2020, 08:17 PM | #11 | |
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Re: Onboard charger for 2001 CC DS
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Really unless you plan to upgrade to an 8x6V setup, the only reason from a charging standpoint to go with the 1050w version would be if you plan to use a battery like the US Battery US 8VHATB XC2 which is a 205AH rated battery, or a Trojan Ranger 160, which is a 205AH rated battery. There may be one or two other 8V batteries in the 200+ah category, but batteries with that much capacity are not common, and are typically quite a bit more expensive. But you do get about 20-30% more range out of those vs a typical 150-170ah pack. Pretty much any other typical "GC8" battery: Trojan T875, Crown CR165 or CR190, US XC2 GC8, Interstate, Deka/Duracell GC8, and several others that are less common, are all going to charge just fine with the 650w charger. That said, something like the Crown CR190 or the US 8VGCHC (High Capacity) will be on the upper end of what the 650 would be able to comfortably handle. Reason being that they will need a higher charge amp rate than most of the others, but the 650 will still be able to charge them as long as it stays well ventilated and clean (no dirt/mud buildup on the cooling fins). As far as speed is concerned. On a series cart you'll need to upgrade both the Controller and Motor to get faster. Speed on a series drive is determined by motor design, and voltage. A higher speed wind motor will need some extra amperage that the stock controller probably will not be able to deliver, or at least probably not in the long term. Short term you may be able to get by with a speed motor with the stock controller, but ultimately you need to do both. The other option is higher voltage. Assuming this is already a 48V cart, the next step up from there would be 56v (by adding an extra 8v battery) which entails another set of upgrades in order to handle the higher voltage. A motor and controller swap is much easier IMO. |
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01-27-2020, 09:22 AM | #12 |
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Re: Onboard charger for 2001 CC DS
I think this is the one im gonna look into.
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01-27-2020, 09:33 AM | #13 |
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Re: Onboard charger for 2001 CC DS
Those chargers don't appear to have provisions for on board use, meaning start a new cycle on AC disconnect.
So You will either need to plug & unplug the DC cord as well as the AC cord to charge or wire a relay to automatically disconnect the DC side when the AC plug is disconnected. |
01-27-2020, 07:43 PM | #14 | |
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01-27-2020, 08:19 PM | #15 |
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Re: Onboard charger for 2001 CC DS
the obc can be removed if you want to . I left mine in the cart in case I want to sell it with a stock charger and keep my DPI
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01-28-2020, 01:31 AM | #16 | |
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Will a manual switch on either side accomplish this? (+ or -) |
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01-28-2020, 07:00 AM | #17 |
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Re: Onboard charger for 2001 CC DS
I suppose you could add a 20 amp switch on the DC output of the charger and turn it ON/OFF manually every time you charge, but I think $10 for a relay is worth to automate that task.
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01-28-2020, 07:49 AM | #18 |
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01-28-2020, 10:08 AM | #19 | |
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Not to knock the modz charger. I'm sure those are decent units, and like Sergio said, that Can be used as an on-board charger, you just need a relay to make it work. It would also charge just about any battery pack just fine. As far as ventilation, I was talking about ventilation for the charger. All new smart chargers get hot as they charge. The case on the Summit II has fins on it to dissipate that heat, and to work properly it needs air space around the charger so the charger does not overheat. The Summit II does have internal protection to slow down or stop the charge if it detects and overheat condition. (as do most other smart chargers) As far as charging in an enclosed garage. Is it attached to your house? Does the garage have any ductwork (heat/AC return) that circulates air from the house into the garage and vice versa? There are gasses emitted from lead acid batteries during charging, and you don't want that stuff being blown through your house by your HVAC system. |
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01-28-2020, 10:42 AM | #20 | |
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Re: Onboard charger for 2001 CC DS
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So it sounds like you are more of a fan of the Lester unit. It is hard to not ignore the difference in price though. Have to decide if the $100 difference is worth the time to wire in a relay. Well being that I was going to put this under the rear seat. I was thinking of mounting the unit to an aluminum bracket with a cooling fan on the other side to help draw heat away. Might be overkill but it will be enclosed somewhat, so it couldn't hurt. The garage is attached but no vents directly connecting it to the house. The air handler is in the attic space above the garage but there is a ceiling in the garage that separates from the garage space. |
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